tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14355716.post1776668586594338273..comments2023-10-07T18:37:45.321+11:00Comments on The Truth Will Set You Free: The Lord's table - thanksgivingStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12519210859079598351noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14355716.post-21363329000127253452008-12-15T18:10:00.000+11:002008-12-15T18:10:00.000+11:00Hi Steve.I think we get sacrifice and the Passover...Hi Steve.<BR/><BR/>I think we get sacrifice and the Passover mixed up. I think Jesus used the latter for what he did, and less of the former. See what Passover originally was in Egypt, and I think even the Jews thought Passover = Sacrifice, when I don't think they were connected exactly that way. True Passover was different from sacrificing bulls and goats. Instead it was a family/community coming together for a meal as Jesus` Passover was. Sacrifice under Moses had no eating component (except for priests and not always).<BR/><BR/>Much more could be said, but Passover was consecrated by Jesus, NOT sacrifice of bulls and goats.<BR/><BR/>Thanks and love in Jesus<BR/><BR/>Dave E.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08614632709677494013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14355716.post-21478259015328883142008-12-12T09:18:00.000+11:002008-12-12T09:18:00.000+11:00Hi Steve & Cliff,It doesn't matter what we...Hi Steve & Cliff,<BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter what we use to remember the sacrifice of out Lord, but it does matter that we remember.<BR/><BR/>The symbols that we use are just that, we are joined to Him in the experience and not in the taste and texture of what we use.<BR/><BR/>By GRACE your brother in the Lord<BR/>GerryGerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487287445515827035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14355716.post-66625383302977630922008-12-11T23:56:00.000+11:002008-12-11T23:56:00.000+11:00Hi SteveAll this is in keeping with the way that J...Hi Steve<BR/><BR/>All this is in keeping with the way that Jesus framed and delivered His message to Israel during His Ministry.<BR/><BR/>At His final meal before His death, Jesus re-framed the context in which people would worship and celebrate the God of Heaven and Earth.(cp John 4:21).<BR/><BR/>No longer would worshipers have to find (grow or buy) an animal and give it to the Priest to BBQ on the alter, to then share in fellowship with God and the Priests in the temple.<BR/><BR/>At Jesus' final meal, because the Gospel was about to go out to the Gentiles, every meal would now become the new "Flesh and Blood" and worship/celebration could now happen anywhere, at any time, with anybody who wished to also share in the Lord's blessings (food).<BR/><BR/>So Jesus chose the staple food items of the culture He lived in (bread and wine), and declared every time we "do this" (ie. have any meal in our culture) we can do it the way Jesus did it and share both the Gospel and the meal with those who would desire to be Disciples of Jesus.<BR/><BR/>So Steve, does it have to be "Bread and Wine?" What about Eskimo Disciples? (An extreme example, I know). But they aren't able to grow either Wheat or Grapes. Could they use "Fish and Milk" (ie. their staple cultural food) to celebrate in thanksgiving the Good News about Jesus?<BR/><BR/>We have used Fruit cake and a Poppa Juice whilst having an MM out in the bush. I know that we can see a lot of lessons in wheat and grapes, or Bread and Wine... but they are things that we inject into our reasoning... those are not lessons that the Lord made a big issue of.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the Good Work Steve,<BR/>Let the Sonshine in<BR/>CliffCliff Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629155487095195768noreply@blogger.com